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ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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0008022 | ardour | features | public | 2020-04-19 10:16 | 2022-08-11 20:00 |
Reporter | sonnie | Assigned To | paul | ||
Priority | normal | Severity | minor | Reproducibility | always |
Status | feedback | Resolution | open | ||
Platform | Some Other Linux | OS | Some Other Linux | OS Version | unknown |
Product Version | 6.0-pre1 | ||||
Summary | 0008022: Tint background color of Mixer- and Editor-Channel (Header) | ||||
Description | I love to have a fast overview. For years other DAWs can optinally tint background color of the mixer strips for faster overview. I'd love to see this in Ardour. | ||||
Steps To Reproduce | - | ||||
Additional Information | - | ||||
Tags | color, mixer | ||||
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Please explain more clearly what you mean by this. Do you mean "use the track color as the background of the mixer strip for that track" ? |
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use the track color as the background of the mixer strip for that track. I use pretty big screens and its hard go get an overview without the "coloured backgrounds" in mixer (or editor in track headers - where solo/mute and volume is located) just with the group bars above. Maybe its more reasonable with some pics. |
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This is really a much needed feature IMHO. I tend to scroll in larger project while trying to read the labels of the tracks.. If there are 19 vocal tracks in a row it is hard to find what I am looking for. It really doesn't help to use a small screen for that matter.. Having Colors like above would make things quite convenient. Or in a shorter form: +1 |
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@sonnie: those are not track colors at all, but group colors. |
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@paul: Yes. Is there a different way to color the tracks (not the audio/MIDI items). These are way better for my eyes for a fast overview than these small track color bubbles. (see pic attached) I run sessions with 50-100 tracks+ and its very, very hard to see fast, what track is what type. |
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Plain old Protools has this appearance which is quite handy if you are looking for one of the two dark green tracks and are in a hurry. |
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Ok this make some sence |
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I should be clear here: I welcome an option to color mixer strip backgrounds. But there's a lot of language appearing here about "track colors", whereas what is shown in the screenshots from other DAWs are not individual track colors, but group colors. |
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"whereas what is shown in the screenshots from other DAWs are not individual track colors, but group colors. " No, in Reaper and Pro Tools it's called "Track Colors". But nevermind, we now know, what I initially meant. Thanks for your help. :) |
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Will this be a feature of Ardour 7? :) |
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I also vote for this feature. In Ardour, each track in the mixer has a little color bubble on the top. It would be great if that color was more appearent on the whole mixer strip. I gimped an example of how it might look like :) I'm well aware that implementing this is harder than using Gimp. |
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Now in git master via commit bfedf7168e |
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I do like at @tanjeffmoos mockup, but the current state of coloring the whole strip incl faceplace of the fader and meter is not helpful and introduces visual clutter in my opinion. Also the master-bus be exempt but VCAs should also have an outline (like tracks). The faders should not default to blue but the fader/meter area get colored depending on track type (again). For those who cannot compile from git, the current state looks like : |
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I agree with x42 that the current version looks distracting, because there is too much color in the fader/meter area. Or maybe it is just too much contrast between the bright background color and the dark fader/meter. Coloring the fader and meter (as x42 proposed) would reduce contrast. But I think that recoloring the meter is non-trivial, because it uses multiple colors (white and red ticks, green/yellow/red bars) which need to work with any background color the user chooses. Also, there are other meters with other tick colors (e.g. K20). I suppose that you mainly colored the background of the strip. Are fader and meter grouped using a box widget? If so, it might help to change the background of that box back to gray (this would look more like my mockup). It might be simpler to implement. |
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> Coloring the fader and meter (as x42 proposed) would reduce contrast. I proposed to revert that that area to how it was before. The box with the fader and meter should just be boring gray (for busses), boring blue-gray (for Audio tracks), and green-gray (for MIDI tracks), like it is when not using track-color. Like in your screenshot above (https://tracker.ardour.org/view.php?id=8022#c26517) More nitpicking: Currently the brightness of the track color is increased. IMHO, that is also not the correct approach. The color should be used as is. If this is an issue with the "flat & boxy" theme (the track header button is not distinguishable), increasing saturation would be my choice. Alternatively make it darker with a dark theme and brighter with a bright theme. -- PS. Harrison Mixbus has an entirely different approach to this: the mixer-strip itself is not colored, the background remains unchanged, only the Fader itself is colored. |
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new approach underway. feedback welcomed. |
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I like the approach, it looks very clean. But there is a corner case: It a fader is all the way down, almost no color will be visible. My suggestions are: - Colorize the "comment" button. Its color does not indicate any status, hence a new color won't do any harm. - Add a colored horizontal ruler below the fader/meter and above the "group" button, just do indicate the strips color. - Colorize the fader background with a darker (or brighter?) version of the strip color. Here are two examples of how a ruler could look like. |
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the name button at the *top* is already colored |
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here's a corresponding view of the editor view |
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OK, here are two screenshots of the current state of play (similar to above but master bus is uncolored, and fader bgs are correct) Again, any feedback is welcome |
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> the name button at the *top* is already colored Yes, but it is far away from the bottom :-) The current approach looks professional. Even the 0,0-markers are colored, I love such details! |
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"0,0-markers" ?? |
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This line. How it is named correctly? |
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I think "unity position marker" -- although in different contexts (faders for plugin automation) it's the "default value marker" |
Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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2020-04-19 10:16 | sonnie | New Issue | |
2020-04-19 10:16 | sonnie | Tag Attached: color | |
2020-04-19 10:16 | sonnie | Tag Attached: mixer | |
2020-04-19 13:47 | paul | Note Added: 0021397 | |
2020-04-21 07:16 | sonnie | Note Added: 0023838 | |
2020-04-21 07:39 | sonnie | File Added: ardour editor.jpg | |
2020-04-21 07:39 | sonnie | File Added: reaper editor mixer.jpg | |
2020-04-21 07:39 | sonnie | File Added: ardour mixer.jpg | |
2020-04-21 23:34 | ahellquist | Note Added: 0023848 | |
2020-04-22 16:45 | paul | Note Added: 0023862 | |
2020-04-22 17:11 | sonnie | File Added: ardour mixer track color.jpg | |
2020-04-22 17:11 | sonnie | Note Added: 0023863 | |
2020-04-22 17:11 | sonnie | File Added: ardour mixer track color-2.jpg | |
2020-04-22 17:45 | ahellquist | File Added: ProotoolsMixer.jpg | |
2020-04-22 17:45 | ahellquist | Note Added: 0023866 | |
2020-04-22 18:22 | itsmonika | Note Added: 0023867 | |
2020-04-22 19:48 | paul | Note Added: 0023868 | |
2020-04-23 07:22 | sonnie | Note Added: 0023871 | |
2021-10-06 09:18 | sonnie | Note Added: 0026176 | |
2022-07-19 18:11 | tanjeffmoos | Note Added: 0026517 | |
2022-07-19 18:11 | tanjeffmoos | File Added: ardour-mixer-colored.png | |
2022-08-09 22:20 | paul | Assigned To | => paul |
2022-08-09 22:20 | paul | Status | new => feedback |
2022-08-09 22:20 | paul | Note Added: 0026539 | |
2022-08-10 01:27 | x42 | Note Added: 0026543 | |
2022-08-10 01:27 | x42 | File Added: colored_mixer.png | |
2022-08-10 06:00 | tanjeffmoos | Note Added: 0026544 | |
2022-08-10 12:15 | x42 | Note Added: 0026545 | |
2022-08-11 04:19 | paul | Note Added: 0026546 | |
2022-08-11 04:19 | paul | File Added: aug10.png | |
2022-08-11 05:56 | tanjeffmoos | Note Added: 0026547 | |
2022-08-11 05:56 | tanjeffmoos | File Added: grafik.png | |
2022-08-11 06:27 | paul | Note Added: 0026548 | |
2022-08-11 06:28 | paul | Note Added: 0026549 | |
2022-08-11 06:28 | paul | File Added: aug10-2.png | |
2022-08-11 14:47 | paul | Note Added: 0026550 | |
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2022-08-11 18:53 | tanjeffmoos | Note Added: 0026551 | |
2022-08-11 19:26 | paul | Note Added: 0026552 | |
2022-08-11 19:49 | tanjeffmoos | Note Added: 0026554 | |
2022-08-11 19:49 | tanjeffmoos | File Added: grafik-2.png | |
2022-08-11 20:00 | x42 | Note Added: 0026555 |